Won’t somebody think of the POOR ENTITLED INFERTILES! *wail*

Oh. My. Fucking. God.

He’s at it again.

Yes, Greg, the Poor Entitled Infertile (from here onwards to always be known as PIE for ease) is wailing again that people are caring more about the kids who’re getting adopted than they are about the PIEs who want to adopt them.

Who, I hear you ask, would be so cruel as to ignore the wails of the PIEs? Other than me ‘n’ ReenieWeenie, of course. Well today’s culprit is none other than Courtney Bonfante, who I also only bumped into recently and so don’t really know enough to say a damn thing about, but given how staunchly she’s defending Dusten getting to keep his daughter, Veronica, she can’t be all that bad. :}

The first post in the thread I tripped over while scrolling down my reading page was Courtney asking:

Reply to @gsmwc02 Is that directed at me? Because I’d never tell someone dealing w/infertility 2 just adopt a child in need.

Of course, with such an interesting question being asked, I couldn’t NOT go and ave a nose at what was going on, and so I clicked through to the thread and scrolled up to have a nose down.

The thread starts with someones I don’t know discussing what I worked out was Dusten Brown’s battle to save his daughter, Veronica, from a fate worse than death. There’s some relatively sane stuff said towards the top of the thread, even from our current favourite PIE of the week, and then the idea of adopters needing to have a certain standard of mental health gets broached.

@gsmwc02 @anditweetsalot @shanellelittle @mrsrenkert actually; there are mental health criteria one must pass to b an adoptive parent

Obviously, our PIE of the week wants to know what these criteria should be, and pushes Courtney for a detailed, knowledgeable synopsis (that’ll fit into 140 characters or less, remember), to which Courtney quite sensibly points out that she’s not a psychiatrist, but that the end goal of the evaluation is to ensure that those being evaluated actually are mentally competent to parent.

Of course, such a wussy, unknowledgeable, cop-out answer is nothing even approaching good enough for our deeply academic and intellectually brilliant PIE, and so he pushes further and further, until as is usual when talking to a PIE, the thread descends into chaos and wails of woe that no-ones caring enough about the POOR ENTITLED INFERTILES! *wail* *snivel* *woe* *whine*

@WeMonetize And what in your mind would deem them “mentally competent” to parent? And how does an evaluation ensure that?

@gsmwc02 Do you just think agencies should place kids to whoever knocks on their door and asks for one?

@WeMonetize No, don’t think I ever said that. But you also don’t want to discourage good candidates.

@gsmwc02 If they’re good candidates they won’t have an issue being evaluated

@WeMonetize Again you have children and are clueless on the mentality of an infertile considering adoption.

@gsmwc02 to be perfectly frank; I’m less concerned with adults fellings than I am with children’s welfare.

@WeMonetize Less? I don’t think you do at all. You live in that bubble where no one else’s POV matters.

@gsmwc02 read it again. I am LESS concerned about adults feelings than a child’s welfare.

@WeMonetize Don’t have to read it again. You’ve made it clear you don’t care about pain or grief of infertility. We just need to suck it up.

@gsmwc02 what do you think the adoption industry needs to do to accommodate infertility grief?

@WeMonetize Recognize and support that grief. Don’t outcast the childless and look down on them as you. It’s an extreme hurt.

@gsmwc02 I’m not understanding how the infertile are outcast in the adoption industry; I actually would say quite the opposite

@WeMonetize It’s a society issue. Adoption community can help demand of adoption by not contributing to outcasting infertiles as u are.

@gsmwc02 I am not outcasting infertile people; I don’t know where you get that from. I just don’t put their needs ahead of kids needs

@WeMonetize @gsmwc02 in what tangible way do you want support? This is what I’m not understanding.

@WeMonetize Recognition of loss and not try to tell them they should just adopt a child in need.

Reply to @gsmwc02 Is that directed at me? Because I’d never tell someone dealing w/infertility 2 just adopt a child in need.

I’m sure there’s now far more to the thread than I’ve got here since it’s taken me quite a while to construct this post. If it looks like it gets interestinger or funner then I might drop in here to drop more of it in here, but really, I just dropped this in here to show the world – yet again – just how damn fuckin’ unhinged Greg Sdeo ‏@gsmwc02 actually is, and ask you to join me in prayers to whichever deity you think may listen that this particular psycho nutter NEVER gets to take on someone else’s kid. Well, at least not until he’s had a LOT of counselling to get past his current insanity, at any rate.

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10 responses to “Won’t somebody think of the POOR ENTITLED INFERTILES! *wail*

  • iwishiwasadopted

    Totally agree. He’s everywhere.

  • Lori Carangelo (the author)

    Suggest he follow this link to
    “INFERTILITY CURES (INSTEAD OF ADOPTION) ” — http://www.Amazon.com/dp/B00A64NXTU

  • Snarkurchin

    Being infertile must be sad and frustrating and difficult. You have the compassion of pretty much everyone involved in adoption and much of the public. Adoptees are under no obligation to coddle you too, yet you seem to believe we are. Quelle surprise: no matter how old we grow, we exist to reassure P/APs their emotions and actions are valid.

    And really, WTF?

    “Stop telling us we should ‘just adoooopt’!”
    “I…didn’t tell you that one single time, nor would I ever.”
    “Stooop iiiit!”

  • cammie dazz

    How many people out there truly believe it is okay to give their child away, period. Why isn’t anyone out there willing to help another person co-parent as in “it takes a village to….” No one seems to care about how much pain a person lives with knowing they were given away. There will never be a good enough reason…GIVEN AWAY IS STILL GIVEN AWAY not wanted, not worthy, didn’t even try, just given away period. If a person wants a child to raise, then become an honest loving foster parent to a true orphan or a youth who is unable to live with their parent.

    • 7rin

      Sadly, there’re an awful lot of people out there who truly believe it’s okay to give your kid away. As long as it’s not them having to do it, they’re generally happy. There’re very few who truly WANT to give their kid away, but such people do – sadly – exist.

      Why are’t they willing to co-parent? Personally I blame the fragmentation of mutually supportive society due to materialistic values. That, obviously, is the concise version.

      The rest I agree with emphatically.

    • marilynn

      See I believe the same. It would be better for the kid if their parents gkt partnered wjth so they could do the best they ca n for their kid. Theg owe it it wkuld be more fair to the kid

  • randommusing23

    There’s a reason I didn’t get involved in that post lol I just couldn’t deal with going around in circles. I believe (on good days) that he’s trying to understand adoption etc but then I read stuff like this and I just *facepalm* and then *bang head against desk or brick wall whichever is closer* 🙂 thanks for putting it together on here though 🙂

  • Kay Springsteen

    @gsmwc02 If they’re good candidates they won’t have an issue being evaluated”

    In my time as a pet rescuer, I cannot tell you how many people actually go to puppy mills for their new little cuddly four-legged – even though they know their purchase perpetuates the greed of the puppy miller and the agony of the caged breeding machines (aka parent dogs). Why do they pay twice as much for a puppy mill puppy than they would if they went to a shelter? Two reasons: (1) Because they want that “brand new” puppy, that hasn’t been touched by too many human hands, and (2) Because they don’t have to tolerate even the smallest hint of scrutiny into their ability to care for a pet – they just fork over the cash and no one judges them good or bad, fit or not fit.

    Some people who are infertile address the issue of desiring to be a parent by recognizing there ARE adoptable children available, children who needs a stable home and the love that the “infertile couple” have to give. But all too often, these children are regarded by the infertile prospective adopters as damaged goods – too old (over 4), too dark, wrong sex, not perfect (has a health issue), when what they want is that coveted brand new, freshly birthed infant. So they go the “baby mill” route. “Rescue” a baby from a mom (telling themselves they are saving the baby from abortion when in most cases the mom wasn’t even considering that option), and because they fork over the cash to the baby mill, the father doesn’t matter. That a father might WANT his child doesn’t matter. After all, he can always make more, since he made this one, right? He’s just the “sperm donor,” the necessary male component of the “baby mill” that guarantees infertiles their freshly baked baby.

    • marilynn

      Good analogy. In my exchanges with greg about people whose parents were egg and sperm donors (I reunite separated familjes free) he explained that exact thing you just said that he does not want an older damaged kjd. He also said even adkpting a infant it yku are getting a kid that is not necessarjlh from a gokd background so you have more controll with egg and spem donors.
      They are not satisfied to help ofkcially abandoned kids they want to have that sense of making one of their own by picking out the abacrombie and fitch model harvard student with great teeth who will make and abandon kids for them to raise

  • marilynn

    Oh thats Greg. Im happy to hear im not the only one he goes bana as on. He sends me email saying ima c..t and tells me to be careful reuniting families ( im a free search angel and lil bit activist) he says the non bio families I destroy will seek vengence on me and my child show up at my door one day and bite me. Yes bite me hes way mean to me. I dont understand his position

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